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    So I saw this interesting new supp from PHF and thought it was kinda cool. The compound is 7a-Methyl-estra-4-en-3,17-dione. Anyone smarter than me know about it. It says significant strength gains can be achieved but I have read it causes a great increase in estrogen...

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    Supposed to be good ish but I havent followed the logs. Basically Cheque drops I believe. Should give a boost in libido. And estrogen...ehhh no biggie we have drugs for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed View Post
    So I saw this interesting new supp from PHF and thought it was kinda cool. The compound is 7a-Methyl-estra-4-en-3,17-dione. Anyone smarter than me know about it. It says significant strength gains can be achieved but I have read it causes a great increase in estrogen...
    The product to which you're referring is Mentabolan, which has as its ingredient the compound you named.

    This is a PH/DS which I honestly don't know much about, and it's probably hard to tell how much is actually known about it. There are threads at PHF about it, but I don't have any personal experience with it nor read literature on it.

    As for actual MENT, there was actually a Seth Roberts article in MD about it.
    According to Roberts, Actual MENT is 7alpha-methyl-nortestosterone, and "is currently under investigation for use in men as a hormone replacement and a contraceptive" (Roberts 284).

    Some key points from the article:
    -"significant progesterone receptor binding and is converted to a potent estrogen"
    -"causes severe HPGA shutdown"
    -"high propensity for gynocomastia"
    -"should produce effects similar to nandrolone, but with greater progestational, androgenic, and estrogenic side effects"
    -"oral bioavailability is so low [it] would require large, frequent doses to see any effect"
    -(referring to the injected compound) "would produce significant gains in mass, [but] should also be expected to cause significant shutdown in natural testosterone production" (Roberts, 284-286)

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    Roberts, Seth; "MENT" Anabolic Pharmacology, Muscular Development Volume 27 number 8, August 2010. pp 284-286. Print.
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    I actually got a couple of these to try down the road and will log it. Will prob stack with katanav2 and transaderm along with forma..from what i heard the strnegth is supposed to be more noticable then the size gains..i read some loggers taking it preeorkout..sj
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    Anyone else either using ment or thinking about it. On another forum they have been compared to cheque drops and most loggers that I saw are spreading the dosage throughout the day but are taking a bigger dose preworkout to help with immediate strength increases during eirnworkouts, now I don't. Know if that is try as I have yet to run it. I will in fact run it down the road and will up the dose preworkout and see if that really works..SJ
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    I've read that a logger actually got leaner from using it. As far as dosing times I'll have to look at the log again. But definitely I'd run an AI on cycle. Exem or forma.

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    Yah I was thinking running mrsupps forma since I already have it..sj
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    i've noticed all the BETA logs look good, afterwards, retail logs look bunk. Have to dose wayyyyy higher, or the effects aren't the same. look at the bola and trenavar retail logs, not the sponsored logs.
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    Yah I have to agree about the beta logs and then the member loss. Always seem to have to run at a higher dose. I have not used the trenavar yet so I can't compare never mind the ment. As a former competitive power lifter, I like the fact that ment supposeably has an affect on raising your strength during your training session if u use it preworkout..SJ

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    forgive me, ment and mechabol are the same thing? man, ive heard so much different things about mecha now i dont know what to believe..

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    IBE Ment is NOT the same thing is Mechabol, they are totally different. ment is supposes to be similar to the steroid Cheque Drops, while Mechabol is basically the same thi as CEL P-mag. sJ
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    ok, cool, thanks man- i had heard it was dry, low sides, and like Pmag..thanks for clearing it up for me..

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    No problem bro..take care..sj
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