On May 4th 2010 when the PP PO knocked my door in I was running somewhere in the area of 3000mg combined gear per week. Obviously they took all my gear so there was no cycling off…no tapering, no PCT. it was just going from a combined dose of 3000mgs of Sust, EQ, NPP, and Proviron to what ever my nuts make. I must say judging by the size of my tiny testes it certainly could not be much if any at all.
I am not ashamed to say I have ran high miligram cycles for very,very long periods of time with little time off. Six weeks max after 6 months on has been very typical for me for as long as I can remember to be honest. It really just is how it is at the national level. Pretty much everyone I talk to says time on equals time off went out the window a long, long time ago. I did adhere to the on equals off protacal for years but realized it just is not feasiable after a point in time when you have been using for a long time and wish to progress well past genetic limits.
I was a very skinny, lean, wirey kid. Probably why I have such an easy time staying lean no matter what I eat to this day. I am sure over 200# lean mass helps but I think skinny kids make for lean bodybuilders later in life. When I was locked up for 4 days I went from almost 4000 cals of clean carbs and protien to 2000 cals of starch. I dropped 8 pounds in 4 days. I am sure stress had a lot to do with this as well.
Here is the part I do not get. I have been on no gear save for HCGnerate from Needtobuildmuscle.com and Need2slin. I am not pumping his products here because he is my sponsor I am just stating what I am using. Here is weird part. I am still 220# +. I can still see all 6 abs clearly although I have put on at least a percent of BF as I went off diet as I cannot compete now. I am still hitting 225 on incline for 25 reps and all my other lifts are still holding there own. I am still as horny as ever. Still get as good of wood as ever. I am not depressed at all…..and its been almost 8 weeks now since I have seen a needle.
I swear I thought this crash was just going to be horrible. I even talked with my doc about some PCT if needed and he said he would if I needed it. I just do not think I need it! Now even if Needto supps are the best on earth in no way can they come close to 3000mgs of gear a week….or maybe I am wrong about that!! Maybe its 30yo muscle that just will not go away. Maybe the crash is coming and I am in for a big suprise….I hope not! I will keep an update with other blog posts on this but to be honest I cannot figure this out.
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I would have to say at 2 months off, with out some damn good pct you would be hurting by now. You would be getting some kind of a loss. Maybe not a huge loss ( though at this point most would with out a good pct after what you had been using), but at the very least a lot of lose and a noticeable loss in strength,size,sex drive, and more.
You have suffered non of this. And I truly feel you wont ether. Not much at all anyway. Your sex drive will be perfectly fine. Hcgenerate is the bomb for this no doubt about it. At this point I would through in some of the ntbm gear product, and also some ancient strength creatine. You might even find your self getting back that 8lb after that.
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to Joe, Actually have spent so much on lawyers and stuff…well no $$ to do so….
That’s a lot of mass to put on in such a short period of time. And you still maintained a lean look? I might have to try out one of those products man.
Hey, why did the PP PO knock on your door in the first place? How did they find out about your stuff..
I think that running 3g of gear per week, even at 8 weeks he’d have enough in his blood of the long esters like the test decanoate in sust and bold undecylenate (eq) which has a half-life of 34 DAYS! so in 8 weeks you’ve only cleared 1.64 half-lives, which means if you were shooting 1g per wk, in 8 weeks after last inject you’d still have 100-200 mg/wk of boldenone floating around,
honestly i think this is why a lot of guys have problems with PCT, too much of these LONG esters. Most guys still have enough juice in the depots that even after 2-3 weeks after last inject when they start their PCT they are still on cycle as far as the body is concerned, granted a really WEAK cycle, something closer to HRT than a cycle.
if you left EQ out of that cycle, you’d be feeling “off” by now, not that EQ is all that androgenic, but enough to keep you from crashing. also the crash doesn’t really come IME until a few days/weeks after the juice has been completely gone (or at least not a significant amount still in the depots/blood)
so i’d say the crash is coming in about another 2-3 weeks, i can’t say your lack of crash is attributable to HCGenerate because the boldenone and little bit of test (prolly around 30mg or so) you have left are keeping your pituitary turned off at the moment, it’ll start trying to pump out LH once you get down to like 50mg of a not-so-androgenic drug a la boldenone. keep in mind, it will still be partially suppressed for some period of time until all exogenous hormones have been reduced to insignificant levels, which by the look of things could be another 8 weeks, but for practical purposes i’d say start PCT in the next 2 weeks if you feel like it, but at this point you’ll probably save yourself a lot of hassle by just staying on (not that I advocate that) since you stay on year round anyways, considering your use of long esters and high dosages you probably haven’t had a real PCT in, well a while.
10001110101 Good points man. Hope you are wrong but yo may very well be spot on. Still hit all my reps last week so another week down. Time will tell for sure.
I think you are going to be just fine jeff and all these people are dieing to hate on a good thing. As each week passes and you are still recovering just fine a new excuse will pop up from some one. Trust me
a year from now when all you have been using is NTBM products and you are growing. Some ones going to still be talking crap. LMAO I love some people
Well So far still so good! Still hitting my 225X25 on incline litmus test. Still 220# with abs…still getting good wood….SOOOOOOOO!!!!
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